Gun Used in Friedlander Murder-Suicide Purchased Back in April at Yonkers Shop
State police reveal when and where Sam Friedlander got the weapon he used to murder his family.
Sam Friedlander purchased the Remington model 870 12 gauge shotgun he used to kill his two children and himself from a gun store in Yonkers nearly six months ago, state police said today.
The weapon was bought April 29, police said, along with two boxes of 00 buckshot shotgun ammunition, from All Counties Sporting Supply Inc. on Yonkers Avenue.
On Oct. 18 Samuel Friedlander, 50, bludgeoned his wife to death with a piece of furniture, used the gun to fatally shoot his two children, 8 and 10, in their beds, and then killed himself in the basement of their home at 2 Lambert Ridge Road in Cross River, N.Y.
A call to the company tonight reached its voicemail system. The owner, Anthony Galimi, earlier today called it "a tragedy" to the Journal News' Shawn Cohen.
Police said no laws were broken in obtaining the weapon. You do not need a permit to purchase a shotgun in New York except in New York City.
"(A) preliminary investigation into the purchase of the weapon indicate(s) proper procedures were followed with regard to the sale of this weapon to a subject who identified himself as Samuel Friedlander. Based upon records maintained by the gun shop, Mr. Friedlander identified himself at the time of the purchase with a valid New York State Driver's License bearing his name and picture."
Amy Friedlander's father, Gary Perez, told the Daily News, the purchase coincided with a custody stipulation. The couple was divorcing.
john
12:23 am on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
What is the relevance of this article? Where was the table purchased?
Chris
6:56 am on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
The relevance is to his state of mind regarding these killings. Was it a sudden snap? He wasn't a hunter, why did he need a shot gun?
Jenga
11:26 am on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
Also, when they purchase a kitchen knife, vehicle, or a piece of furniture- you never know what could be used to harm someone- come on!
Jennifer
1:20 pm on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
The relevance is that all Supreme Court divorce filings are PUBLIC information, including Sam Friedlander's. Wouldn't that be a RED FLAG on the background check?
Jenga
4:02 pm on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
Since when would a divorce filing be a "red flag" on an ATF backround check? Is this something else that we want to preclude people from purchasing firearms legally?
Francis T McVetty
4:45 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
NO.
Ross Revira
5:59 pm on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
@Chris there is a thing called the 2nd Amendment which gave him the right to purchase a shotgun without asking for anybody's permission.
@Jennifer you can't be serious. Divorce proceedings are civil matters not criminal.
Jennifer
6:31 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011
yes, very serious in fact. A divorce filing 12 months before buying a gun. Same address as his "spouse" - she should be notified. Or there should be some sort of registry - like they have for sex offenders. Would have been nice if those beautiful childrens rights were protected over that lunatics right to bear arms. And - be kind boys (elmer & ross)
Chris
6:33 pm on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
@Ross - can you read? I never said he had to ask anyone's permission. I said the relevance goes to figuring out his state mind.
Tyana
10:27 am on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Unfortunately, purchasing a gun should also be a matter of public record. It would've been a useful bit of information for Amy's team to have. Perhaps when people are going through a particularly contentious divorce, the plaintiff's/ defendant's comings and goings need to be under scrutiny as it pertains to activities such as: applying for any kind of license, filling out job applications, taking out a new insurance policy, registering/purchasing a gun...
Ross Revira
3:14 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Tyana that place you advocate already exists it is North Korea. When you get back (maybe) tell us how you liked it.
john
11:48 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Tyana "Amy's team" probably did an excellent job of badgering the man enough. And may have helped push him to the outcome. Go team.
Jennifer
6:38 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Tyana - you're absolutely right. Ross - with that attitude I'm sure glad you don't own a gun because it seems you could snap at any moment! Oh wait, that's right you probably do. John - really? I'm familiar with some of those asshats er...I mean lawyers that were involved with Sam Friedlander's case along the way. I assure you, they instructed him not to leave the house. That was NOT in the childrens best interest. Elmer- people like you can actually own guns-isn't that a truly scary fact?
Jenga
11:38 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011
What was it that I said that would make it scary for me to own a firearm?
Jenga
4:43 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
People like Tyana can actually vote in elections- isn't that a truly scary fact?
Oram Security Consultants
7:29 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Why should it be a matter of public record? To obtain a rifle or shotgun the purchaser would have had to "pass" the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS. This is run by the FBI and with “Instant Criminal Background Check"- once approved, the purchaser may take possession of the firearm. (This is not the law in NY City)
We do not judge people on what they "might" do. But we do hold them accountable for their past actions. Although it is both tragic and regrettable that these children and their mother were murdered by their father, the manner in which he obtained the firearm was lawful. He bludgeoned to death his wife. Even if he had been stopped from purchasing the shotgun I do not see how a more stringent gun law would have stopped her horrific death. We have some strong and useful gun laws, we just need to do a better job of enforcing them. At the time of the murder, they were still living in the same house. If there had been a fear of a physical confrontation then a restraining order would have been issued and he would not have been in the house.
Oram Security Consultants
7:30 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
As for your comment concerning a “particularly contentious divorce”; who is to judge that it is “particularly contentious”? and who would scrutinize applying for any license? A motorcycle license? A pistol permit? A drivers License? A hunting license? With no prior violent or criminal background why should you be able to stop him… or her, from making a purchase?
Many ugly divorces are completed where one or both parties own firearms, and unfortunately many where no one owns a firearm can become both violent and deadly. At this time, all local, state and federal laws were obeyed in the purchase of the shotgun. Now, thankfully in this country we have the ability to change laws by voting those into office that we choose to represent us.
The true tragedy here is the loss of four lives taken so violently and suddenly.
Francis T McVetty
8:05 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011
Come on folks what do you expect from the the anti-gun crowd. Coulda, shouda, woulda. Monday morning quarterbacking at best. I also guess that Jennifer has her degree in psychiatry since she seems to know the inner workings of Ross's and Elmers mind.
You better lock up all the knives, hammers, wood chippers,poisons, and any other object that could kill anyone for that matter.
Nature Lady
8:48 am on Saturday, October 29, 2011
Can't make pie with a gun