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POLL: Is Train Station Ad About Israel Offensive?

Content of ads placed at Chappaqua, Mount Kisco train stations by the Committee for Peace in Israel and Palestine draws controversy.

A new advertising campaign on Metro-North station billboards that depicts land changes in the Middle East is becoming contentious, according to media reports.

The ads, from the Committee for Peace in Israel and Palestine, were placed at 50 Metro-North stations, MTA spokesman Aaron Donavon told Patch. Those stations include Chappaqua and Mount Kisco.

The content of the ad shows Palestinian-controlled land shrinking from 1946 to 2010, with Israeli land holdings growing. The right side of the ad states, "4.5 Million Palestinians are Classified by the U.N. as Refugees."

“If the facts are inflammatory, then they are inflammatory,” Henry Clifford, the group's chair, told The Journal News, adding, “All of the Middle East is infected with the virus of the Arab-Israeli conflict. People need to know the truth of the matter.”

When asked for comment, Donavan, sent out the following statement:

“The MTA and our advertising contractor, CBS Outdoor, review proposed advertisements to ensure that they comply with the MTA’s uniform, viewpoint-neutral advertising standards. We do not decide whether to accept or reject a proposed ad based on the viewpoint that it expresses or because the ad might be controversial. The MTA does not endorse the viewpoint expressed in this ad, or any of the ads that it accepts for display.”

Commuters gave a range of views when asked Thursday evening, as seen below:

Ed DeGiocomo, Mount Kisco, replied he had not seen the ad, but was sympathetic to Israel's situation.

"They're surrounded by all these countries that want to kill 'em," he said.

Pam Cole, Chappaqua, said she does not have a personal opinion about the ad but defended the group's constitutional right to have it.

"I think freedom of speech is a good thing," she said.

Patrice Solaro, Chappaqua, felt that while people can like or dislike the ad, he stated that the territorial change is a fact.

Tell us what you think of the ad. Vote in our poll, write below in our comments section, or reply on our Facebook page.

JohnWV July 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Politically informative ads may be controversial. Commercial ads are equivalent to litter and always offensive.
Al Gi July 13, 2012 at 12:47 PM
That's right and I completely agree with them, you should post politically informative ads, but they have to be informative, as in give all the information. For example that there are over 1 billion muslims in the world and countries, where islam dominates (over 85% population is muslim) cover about 19,519,895 square km (12,199,934 sq mi). And for comparison there are about 5.5 million jews live in Israel, that covers 20,770 square km or 8,019 sq mi. Just for comparison Massachusetts is 27,336 sq km or 10,555 sq mi. There. Some politically informative addition to the ad...
ChappaquaResident July 13, 2012 at 12:51 PM
The ad only tells half of a story, which is, by its nature, misleading and therefore inaccurate. If the ad began with a map of Israel in Old Testament times and then continued to present, then I would agree that it is factually accurate.
Slightly Bmused July 13, 2012 at 01:01 PM
The map shows gains for human and individual rights in the middle-east. Israel alone respects and protects the rights of women, gays, no-believers and thethose of all faiths, religion and cultures. Anyone who champions Islamo-Fascism supports their anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-dissent aims. Hamas or the Taliban, anyone? Why so many liberals find this so appealing is beyond reason. Long live human rights! Long live democracy! Long Live Israel!
gill K July 13, 2012 at 01:39 PM
The refugee status is imposed on them by their own people. Egypt and Jordan should have absorbed them. Clearly, the politicians use the term to draw sympathy.
gill K July 13, 2012 at 01:41 PM
Agreed!
Av July 13, 2012 at 06:13 PM
It is political, showing only one side of the story, it should be taking down. Enough with trying to portrait Israel as the bad one. Both Israel and Palestine share responsibilities in this conflict. Should there be an add, showing how Palestine doesn't have respect for other religions but Islam, if you're not Muslim you don't have the right to leave in peace there. Israel doesn't persecute people based on gender or religion.
Steven Shapiro July 13, 2012 at 09:17 PM
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED 1946: The entire territory was controlled by the British (the mandate period). The territory was populated by Arabs and Jews. The British tried to keep Holocaust survivors out of the mandate territory. 1947: UN votes to partition the mandate territory between the populations, Jewish and Arab. Nobody was happy with the partition but the Jews accept the partition plan, the Arabs did not. There was never a cohesive Palestinian entity, Palestinians were dispersed between all Arab countries and some were in the former territory governed by the Turkish and later the British UN mandate. Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq DECLARED WAR on the new state (consisting of the land allocated to the Jews by the UN) in an attempt to “drive the Jews into the sea”. 1948: The Arab armies lost the war, Israel survived, with more territory than originally allocated. Arabs refuse to negotiate for peace. (note: The one Egyptian leader that was leaning towards peace negotiation with Israel was assassinated by his people.) 1948-1957: The Arabs continued to maintain groups of terrorists - then known as Fedayeen - that infiltrated the new state and kept on murdering innocent civilians.
Steven Shapiro July 13, 2012 at 09:17 PM
1957: Egypt decided to block off the Tiran straits - the only southern outlet for Israel. War began and with the aid of France ended in Israel capturing the Sinai desert and the Gaza strip, which Israel returned to Egypt after they agreed to a ceasefire and to controlling the terrorist groups. 1960-1967: Israel is continuously bombarded by Syrian shells from the north and attacked by terrorists coming in through the West Bank, which was controlled by Jordan, and the Gaza strip, which was controlled by Egypt. 1967: Egypt, Syria and Jordan ATTACK Israel, Israel survives and again gained more territory, including the territory known as the West Bank and the Gaza Strip 1973: Syria and Egypt ATTACK Israel again. Israel begins negotiations with Egypt for a peace and a return of territory. Syria, that “bastion of democracy” (look at them now), refused to negotiate. 1979: Egypt and Israel end their state of war. Area captured by Israel - the Sinai Peninsula, is returned to Egypt. Egypt refuses to take back the Gaza Strip. 1994: The Gaza Strip, the last of the territory conquered in the various Egypt-Israel wars is returned to Arab sovereignty. 1994-Present: A continued shelling, suicide bombers and terrorist attacks on Israel and its citizens are maintained and financed by the Arab world. So what would the maps look like if the Arabs had accepted partition, and they had not attacked, again and again? Steven Shapiro
Steven Shapiro July 13, 2012 at 09:18 PM
SteveCFP1948@gmail.com The Committee for Peace (CFP) “There is enough fault to go around, but the fact are the facts”.
Ed July 14, 2012 at 01:02 PM
This is an exercise of the right of free speech, but it is highly intrusive and targeted at inciting anti-Israeli support in a community with a high proportion of Jews, from wealthy sources outside of our community. Sound familiar? If the proposed mosque is built in New Castle, this is just the start of a division in our community, funded from the outside.
gill K July 14, 2012 at 01:52 PM
Ed nails it. It's not about accuracy of history - which of course is important, no doubt. It's about obfuscation and singling Israel out when in face billboards and polls should be about the wholesale slaughter happening in Syria, Sudan, and the Congo.
Dan Seidel July 14, 2012 at 05:04 PM
This is a CodePink, OccupyWallStreet, OccupyJudaism, Jewish Voice for Peace Goebbels piece. The connections can be seen on the LoHud comments on the first article as well as the law. The maps in question are completely inaccurate and show nothing except for incitement of Jewish and other commuters viewing the "maps". CodePink and Pccupy all support the Gaza Flotillas and make cozy with Hamas, infamously known for murder and mayhem. The ads were deliberately placed for stealth jihad in the area. Anyojne who knows anything about the conflict knows what is portrayed is completely false and misleading. Goebbels was a master at this and CodePink and the rest of that ilk are becoming masters of guiding the ignorant thru emotional lies. This is a precursor and psychological conditioner for the coming MSA lawsuit over the Muslim riot at Playland. Stealth Jihad is starting in earnest in Westchester.
White Shaka July 14, 2012 at 07:05 PM
The real irony is they chose to place the posters in Chappaqua to attract the attention of its most famous residents, the Clintons. Yet is was precisely the refusal by Arafat to accept Bill Cinton's Map at Camp David that lead to the Intifada and the suicide bombings that killed thousands of innocent people. Maybe Bill will pay the MTA to put that map up. Land is really not the issue it is the removal of Israel - of any size - that matters.
Patti Bressman July 19, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Simple answer. We live in a land of free speech, thank goodness. MTA claims that this is add meets their "uniform, viewpoint-neutral advertising standards". Someone that represents the pro-Israel position needs to fund a counter ad that provides the "other" unbiased position, as equally informative of the Israeli side as Steve's timeline above. Fight words with words and debunk the misstatements and incomplete story with a good ad campaign of our own!
Dan Seidel July 27, 2012 at 08:20 PM
THE QUR'AN SAYS: "To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the Israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: 'Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.' 'You know full well,' he [Moses] replied, 'that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.'" "Pharoah sought to scare them [the Israelites] out of the land [of Israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]." "We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Muhammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning." [Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104] "And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21]. Faisal of Iraq: "The Arabs, and particularly the educated ones among them, must look at the Zionist movement with the deepest sympathy."
Dan Seidel July 27, 2012 at 08:24 PM
http://www.templemount.org/quranland.html: As is well known, the inclusion of Jerusalem among Islamic holy places derives from al-Mi'raj, the Ascension of the Prophet Muhammed to heaven. The Ascension began at the Rock, usually identified by Muslim scholars as the Foundation Stone of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem referred to in Jewish sources. Recalling this link requires us to admit that there is no connection between al-Miraj [the Ascension] and Muslim sovereign rights over Jerusalem since, in the time that al-Miraj took place, the City was not under Islamic, but under Byzantine administration. Moreover, the Qur'an expressly recognizes that Jerusalem plays for Jews the same role that Mecca does for Muslims. We read: "...They would not follow thy direction of prayer (qiblah), nor art thou to follow their direction of prayer; nor indeed will they follow each other's direction of prayer..." (5) All Qur'anic commentators explain that "thy qiblah" [direction of prayer for Muslims] is clearly the Ka'bah of Mecca, while "their qiblah" [direction of prayer for Jews] refers to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. To quote only one of the most important Muslim commentators, we read in Qadn Baydawn's Commentary: "Verily, in their prayers Jews orientate themselves toward the Rock (sakhrah), while Christians orientate themselves eastwards..." (6) The Book of Islam [the Qur'an] recognizes Jerusalem as the Jewish direction of prayer. Psalm 137: Jewish Nationalism. read!
Patriot November 15, 2012 at 08:37 AM
Sadly the Jihadi's in Gaza have murdered 3 civilians in a school building in Israel this is the evil of radical Islamists http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162111#.UKSm3OQ0WSo
Dan Seidel November 15, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Time to eradicate Islam - as bad if not worse than Nazi ideology. Education on the racist and genocidal doctrines of Islam must be a priority for our children. The crap they get fed in classrooms turns them into loser dhimmis. Obama's election does not help humanity - only helps bring on the New Dark Age.
Patriot November 15, 2012 at 07:14 PM
This is the evil of Radical Islamists we should stand with Israel as she stands up against evil http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-pictures-coming-out-of-israel-are-chilling-see-our-collection-showing-the-aftermath/
Patriot November 16, 2012 at 01:28 AM
Rep.Allen West is a patriot he has the situation understood in clear terms http://allenwestrepublic.com/2012/11/16/rep-allen-west-released-this-statement-today-regarding-the-hamas-attacks-on-israel/
Dan Seidel November 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Re. Allen West had my vote for President years ago. I would follow him into battle any time, no questions asked. what a path this country is taking. Not MY revolution.
Patriot December 04, 2012 at 06:31 AM
Here is a link about the Islamist from the area they want to give a state to who shot in cold blood US soldiers in a terror attack http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DbHtwNex4Lk. This is the evil ideology of Radical Islam and no matter what Israel or The US or anyone else does they will continue their hate. The UN and the international community should not reward terrorists.
Patriot December 04, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Giving a state to another radical Islamist regime is a mistake and The UN should not reward Islamist hate and terror which goes back to the Grand Mufti or Islamist leader and founder of the modern Palestianian Islamist movement's support of and friendship with Hitler.
Patriot December 04, 2012 at 06:34 AM
Giving a state to another radical Islamist regime is a mistake and The UN should not reward Islamist hate which goes back to the Grand Mufti or Islamist leader and founder of the modern Palestianian Islamist movement's support of and friendship with Hitler.

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