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Spirited Debate at New Castle Mosque Hearing

Supporters want place for their needs. Skeptics concerned with area's character being hurt.

Both sides in the debate over the proposed New Castle mosque came in large numbers to the first hearing for the building's environmental review.

The Zoning Board of Appeals held the Wednesday public hearing, which lasted nearly three hours in an overflowing town hall auditorium. During that time, there were several recurring themes on display.

Members of the Upper Westchester Muslim Society, which is seeking to build the 24,690-square-foot structure in the town's West End section, made passionate pleas for a larger space. They described their current Thornwood facility as being too small, lacking enough parking and unable to support major activities. Examples of the later problem included separate educational services being held near Mount Kisco and hotel space being needed for holiday events.

Opponents, comprised of folks who live near the near site, are worried about the environmental impacts. They fear increased traffic, the risk of a major septic failure, noise and lighting pollution, among their issues.

The hearing, triggered due to the release of a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS), is for a review that is connected to the zoning board's eventual decision on whether to grant a special permit for the building. Although the property, an 8.33-acre site at 130 Pinesbridge Rd., is zoned for residential usage that also permits places of worship, it is subject to getting the permit.

The DEIS was approved by the zoning board at its May meeting, after having gone through three revisions since 2009. UWMS purchased the property in 2004 and proposed the building in 2006.

A Sense of Community and Belonging Desired By Backers

“It is very difficult to accommodate our members and provide more services," said Sana Ali, who lives near Chappaqua and is a graduate.

Saaniya Contrator, a Greeley alum who lives in Mount Pleasant's Chappaqua school district section, would like to see a place that provides a similar religious experience to her Christian and Jewish peers.

“I remember attending numerous bar and bat mitzvahs and confirmations and witnessing religious milestones of my friends," she said. "A Muslim center in my community would allow me to show the friends I’ve had since to witness my religious milestones.”

Meryem Katircioğlu, a Yorktown resident and UWMS member, would like to see stable community center so they can move out of their “cramped facility, which isn’t working out for us right now.”

Members also felt that the site is more convenient geographically.

Hena Siddiqi, a Briarcliff Manor resident, described how she couldn't enroll her son in an Islamic summer educational program in Mount Vernon due to it being too far away when his parents would be working.

“It’s impossible to have him show up there at 8:45 in the morning during rush hour traffic, only to be picked up at 3 p.m.”

Members and supporters also touched upon a broader theme of religious inclusiveness, noting their communitie ties and outreach.

To that end, clergy from churches and synagogues in the region showed up in solidarity.

Rev. Tom Lenhart, of the , came on behalf of the Chappaqua Interfaith Council, which UWMS is also a member of, in support of the mosque.

“The society has been a wonderfully loyal and stalwart and supportive member of the council and has worked assiduously for interfaith relationships in this community," he said. "Our friends at the interfaith council are our neighbors and many of their children go to our schools.”

Harry Cohen, president of the board for , also described their friendship with UWMS, and offered its support for the mosque.

“We have been very fortunate to get to know the members of the Upper Westchester Muslim Society over the past seven years," he said. "We have broken bread together, we have studied our respective sacred texts together through an ongoing interfaith dialogue.”

Cohen, who noted the significant land use review that the temple went through to build its large expansion - the addition was dedicated last November - urged the zoning board to treat UWMS as they were treated.

“Without them, this would be a poorer community, and if they are forced to move outside of this immediate area, our area will be greatly, negatively impacted by that decision," said Steve Phillips, pastor for

Rabbi Mark Semeth from the described the role of UWMS in an interfaith group called , which works on charitable relief.He also described how they have partnered with his synagogue for Thanksgiving and its involvement in the village's Memorial Day parade.

West Enders Fear Site is Unsuitable & Will Change Area Character

Neighbors of the proposal were just as passionate in their opposition, whether to the choice of the site, its scale or both.

Sara Brewster, a longtime resident who spoke on behalf of the group West End Neighborhood Taxpayers (WENT), argued against it due to the scale.

“While we understand that places of worship can be permitted in a residential zone, we believe a building of almost 25,000 square feet, with 170 parking spaces and a probability of 650 people in attendance on some occasions, would overwhelm the site and its surroundings.”

Brewster also argued that the proposal goes against the intent of the town's master plan, which emphasizes preserving rural character for New Castle's outlying areas and keeping higher-density uses closer to the Chappaqua and Millwood hamlets.

UWMS attorney Meredith Black said that the mosque will have 170 parking spaces along with a plan for managing more vehicles - the projection is up to 217 during two major holidays - through valet and tandem parking. Figures show that as many as 650 people could be at the site during major holidays.

Several West Enders argued that the the sites immediate surroundings - it's at the intersection of Pinesbridge and Hoags Cross Roads - are not capable of taking on more traffic, especially the later street.

Ronald Steinvurzel, a Hoags Cross resident, explained that it is too narrow for cars to pass each other without slowing down. He also said that he digs cars out every winter.

“Look at me. I’m going to be digging your cars out if this goes forward. I’m the guy.”

Steinvurzel also warned about the magnitude of the traffic data in the DEIS, which predicts vehicle trips in the 100-300 daily range, depending on the time of the week.

“It will crush us," he said.

One concern raised was that the Hoags Cross area has already become overburdened, or could become even more so, due to the recent installation of two athletic fields at nearby Amsterdam Park, which generated

Robyn Field, a Pinesbridge resident and neighbor of the property, felt that DEIS traffic data is outdated and that it predates Amsterdam's athletic use impact. She called for a new traffic study to be done as a result.

“Our neighborhood is a sanctuary, and I do believe that is to be respected as much as their desire to have a sanctuary for themselves," she said.

For several West Enders, the mosque is looked at as being the latest of big projects in their area that go against the residential character. These included the Hudson Hills golf course, a water tower, Amsterdam's fields and the pending

Among them was Gregg Sanzari. While he said that he would like to see them in New Castle, he felt that the proposed site is not the right one,.

“I just don’t know if this is the proper location in this little neighborhood, that over the past five to 10 years has really taken it on the chin. And with the cell phone tower they’re going to take it on the chin again.”

Jason Hoffman, president of the Stillwater Association - it is a homeowners' group for several residents - told non-resident members that he was more familiar with the area's issues.

“It was so very nice to hear people from Yorktown Heights, Yorktown, Pleasantville, Briarcliff, Somers, come and talk about this facility. Welcome to our town hall," he said. "I’ve been here – I can’t tell you how many times over the past several years – to speak of issues that you’re not familiar with: the golf course, the cell phone tower, the soccer fields.”

Hoffman raised a tension that has been present in town for a long time: A feeling among West End residents that their region takes a back seat to Chappaqua's interests.

“It’s like the arm pit of New Castle," referencing how he feels his part of town has been treated in general.

Other concerns raised from residents ranged from whether UWMS will have septic failure, the potential for increased noise due to traffic volumes, tree removal and its related impact on runoff.

Hussein Elzoghby, who is a UWMS member, gave a rebuttal to environmental concerns. He argued that the mosque would be comparable in size to other religious institutions in New Castle, including Temple Beth El (at roughly 30,000 square feet) and Chappaqua's Congregational church (at about 19,000 square feet).

“It is not too big.”

Elzoghby noted that the two-story building's visual scale is fine, with only one story visible from the road. He also said that the septic system complies with regulations and will have 100-percent redundancy, that the building's presence in a wetlands buffer will be offset with mitigation, and that on-site treatment will be in place for stormwater.

“I am acutely aware of the concerns of my neighbors. I am a neighbor myself," said Ali Javed, who chairs the UWMS board and lives in the Chappaqua schools section of Mount Pleasant.

Javed talked about how there has been outreach locally on behalf of UWMS, and that concerns with merit would be addressed.

What to Do Next?

The zoning board is continuing the public hearing, with the next date set for its July 25 meeting. It also voted to refer the DEIS to the planning board, which will give an advisory opinion and eventually will have to decide whether to approve permits connected to work on the site.

According to the timeline given at the hearing, once the public hearing phase of the DEIS ends, UWMS will respond in an final environmental impact statement (FEIS). That statement will go through its own scrutiny, and be followed by a statement of findings by the zoning board that would assess the project's impact. After the environmental review is complete, the board will decide on whether to grant the special permit.

To read the DEIS, click here.

sara brewster June 29, 2012 at 01:20 PM
Excellent fair minded report. It is sad to realize that neither the ZBA nor the applicant seemed to have any understanding or knowledge of the environs of this site. It is not in Chappaqua. It is not in Millwood. It is in the West End of town - in the Ossining School District - and many of our residents are involved in the needs of our diverse community. West end resident
Reese Jones June 29, 2012 at 02:30 PM
The addition at Temple Beth El is immodest, probably double the size of the original building. Apparently, religious leaders of different faiths can agree on super-sized, American Style facilities in line with Staples/Borders/etc. At least the mosque will be on a larger parcel with a better opportunity for screening, should the town board require it. And in the finest suburban tradition, the site will be accessed by motor vehicles only.
Bassett June 29, 2012 at 06:19 PM
Reese Jones is absolutely correct on all points. Having recently been to a function at Beth El I can say that the expansion is ridiculously large and an unnecessary intrusion on its neighbors. I would not have approved it. I do not believe that a Mosque this size belongs in that neighborhood.
robyn field June 29, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Thank you for reporting on the events of the evening so accurately. What I found to be truly appalling and disheartening (as a resident living directly across the con edison property that divides us ) was that the west end community as a whole was painted as being closed minded, incapable of change and unwilling to support UWMS desires. As the meeting began, the board members reminded us that we were to speak- IN RESPONSE TO THE DEIS, we were there to bring our concerns about environmental impact. We of the west end of New Castle, showed up to present our concerns - we worked hard to read through the tedious document and presented an honest assesment of what has been laid before us. Our town board failed to do their job, failed draw the line, allowing personal commentary from UWMS members and support from area religious leaders to ramble on for more than two hours. For all of us who have resided in this area, my family for 16 years, the meeting added further insult to old injuries of feeling a complete lack of support, trust and faith in our town board members. We are members of the town of New Castle - but lets be VERY clear on one thing we are Ossining, we are consistantly and constanly treated as less than the residents of Millwood and Chappaqua.
A Shaikh June 30, 2012 at 06:48 AM
The DEIS is meant both to *establish need* for the project as well as study environmental impacts. Statements by UWMS members (who live in the Town and surrounding area) and religious leaders were in fact completely appropriate and legitimate. Hence, they were rightly not curtailed by the Town board. The reminder to speak to the DEIS was made by the board Chairman in response to the first speaker who delivered a misinformed, Islamophobic rant without addressing anything in the DEIS. Thankfully, there were no other similar comments made afterward.
David Schofield July 02, 2012 at 09:46 PM
It would be difficult to get more than about three houses built in a two acre zoning area with a large wetland area, yet oddly enough it is ok to build a massive structure with a huge area of impermeable surface and room for 170 cars. I also wish all the pious religious "leaders" that spoke would remember a basic Bible teaching that goes something like this..."do unto others..." I think you know the rest. The neighborhood is being severely done unto! I don't think any of you would like to be a victim of this major disruption of our lives. Painting others as bigots is so easy from a distance when you don't know the truth (or care to know the truth). Nobody that spoke in favor of the project lives anywhere near this inappropriate location for a structure of this scale or would be the least bit affected by the traffic noise and disruption to our way of life, not to mention property values!
sara brewster July 03, 2012 at 01:25 AM
Thanks David. Right on the mark. The purpose of the meeting was to address the contents of the DEIS. Too little time was spent on the document and too much on preaching to residents who are known for their reputation for fair mindedness. Sara
John Fuller August 04, 2012 at 02:35 AM
As a life long resident of the west end I can fairly say that the building of a mosque in the current proposed location is utterly out of character for the neighbourhood. The west end has been a dumping ground for things Chappaqua would like to take credit for but not have on main street. The Reader's Digest property is expansive and would be situated better for the needs of new Mosque with a growing congregation. Was this ever considered? All to often the people that will be impacted the greatest with the construction of this Mosque are painted with a brush of bigotry or culture clash. The fact remains that any facility built on the proposed location for any denomination be it Jewish, Islamic, Christian, Pagan...etc is detrimental to the neighbourhood for all the reasons families move here and continue to invest in this area; least of all the environmental impact.
Jennifer scopes August 07, 2012 at 01:52 AM
I hope that it is very clear to the UWMS and it's membership that none of the opposition to the proposed mosque has anything to do with the UWMS and it 's membership. It is very clear that the UWMS would like to work to mitigate all areas of contention with it's proposed neighbors. Unfortunately, there is nothing they can do to mitigate the traffic that will come with the use of the proposed mosque. Plain and simple-Such a huge structure with growing membership will swamp our tiny roads and there is no solution for that.
sara brewster August 07, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Jennifer is absolutely correct. In addition, the document fails to fully explore safety issues in cases of emergency whether on or off-site. Sara
sara brewster August 07, 2012 at 01:33 PM
re-sending comment to Jennifer. She is absolutely correct. The document also fails to explore significant safety issues and probable stress on our volunteer emergency services. The site is also within the 10 mile radius of Indian Point. Sara
Local Resident August 30, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Was there this level of opposition to the Kingdom Hall right down 134? Or the building of the new houses that are an eyesore along Pinesbridge Road? You all know what this opposition is about, and it's disgusting. The sign alongside 134 proves that this is not about the traffic or wetlands - nobody complains about traffic to the preschool or Maryknoll, this is about abridging their freedom to build a house of worship. You can frame the argument as something else, but we know what the truth is.
Local Resident September 07, 2012 at 07:27 PM
Funny, nobody said that about the new park or the golf course that have already brought more traffic to our area. This is about fear. As a Jewish-American I am disgusted by the anti-mosque signs, because I believe in the religious freedom protected by the constitution and my people were once feared and ostracized too.
Patriot September 10, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Just pointing out its not bigoted to have concerns about a huge mosque opening up at a time when Islamism is spreading in the middle East and many in that region of The Arab world persecute minorities and glorify Anti-Semitism. The Islamic world needs to address these issues before we can be very comfortable about these mega-mosques.
Patriot November 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM
The question is dosn't the Mosque and its officials need to be veted before voting for such a plan. Some Mosques are financed by The Saudi Kingdom and some have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood which is like The Muslim KKK except they use stealth methods like speech suppression to achieve there goals and are much larger then the Klan. People have a right to be skeptical of a Muslim brotherhood Mosque if indeed it is one coming to Westchester.
Jill Gertz November 14, 2012 at 12:51 AM
Switzerland had to impose a ban on Mosques building minarets larger than needed. Mosques want to build out of "triumphal" impulses - same with WTC Mosque in NYC. Truth is Islam teaches laws not from God are corrupt so they see themselves as "above it all" in secular democracies. The mosque leaders teach to go with the flow until they can get Sharia going. There are many great Muslim peoples but the ones running the mosques are the most rigid. There is no main leader like a Pope so their is no reform. Statistics show mosques are trouble at the upper levels

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